Episode 02: Vera White, Pittsburgh Presbytery

Presbyteries & presbymergent

Though on the longer side, this episode is rich with hope for possibilities of our church structures, and ourselves, flourishing in the midst of chaos.

Between recording the opening context essay of the episode and now posting this episode (…please pray for me that future episodes take less time to complete…) the post Concerning Exegesis put words to something I couldn’t quite explain. Why are there natural ties between traditionally mission focused Presbyterians and presbymergents? As that post highlights, we share a desire do thoughtful exegesis of culture, and both gain from writers such as Lesslie Newbigin. This podcast and that posting providentially complement one another as we explore the mission before us.

Episode 02: Vera White, Pittsburgh Presbytery

Vera WhiteVera White is the Pittsburgh Presbytery Director of New Church Development, Stewardship, and the Committee on Ministry. This episode has two main themes that Vera develops in her sharing: presbymergent oriented leadership and presbytery-wide support of presbymergent NCDs. Vera’s role in Pittsburgh Presbytery provides a valuable collection of wisdom for any PC(USA) leader or governing body engaging with presbymergent.

Interspersed among this episode’s pictures are paintings from the walls of a tattoo parlor, created by an artist connected to one of the Presbytery’s NCDs. (BTW if you look with care at the picture that resembles ‘The Last Supper,’ you will realize why it is called ‘The Last Tattoo.’)

You can download the episode here. Or you can download the file in MP3 format here.

The next podcast will take us beyond Pittsburgh, all the way to the San Francisco Bay Area, for an interview with one of the first presbymergent NCD pastors Bruce Reyes-Chow, who is now also a candidate for moderator of the upcoming General Assembly.

What’s in a name?

I’ve just come from a visioning committee meeting, a gathering of folks interested in starting a “new faith community” (Is that what the kids are calling it these days?) in a growing part of Santa Fe, NM. Many on the committee are retired PC(USA) clergy; I’d say the average age of those doing the visioning is around 60 years including me—a thirty-two year old.

As we were envisioning something new, discussion came up regarding a flyer/mailing to be circulated to the target communities announcing an initial information session for any would-be interested community members looking for a new faith community. As we considered focus and direction for such a faith community, I noticed that there was a phrase on the flyer saying something like: “Sponsored by the Presbyterian Church (USA) and the Presbytery of Santa Fe.” I asked: Do we have to say that?
Subsequent discussion commentary such as: being “up-front” about who we are, about liability of all things, and not being deceptive. A vote was taken and the majority felt it important that this new church plant have Presbyterian written on its advertising.

So I’m throwing it out there. Do we, in this—according to Nishioka and others—post-denominational age, have to announce we are Presbyterian when doing new church plants? If so, why? (and please don’t tell me for liability…good-grief). Would it be disingenuous not to say our denomination on advertisements? If a group of new church planters opts to “conceal” denominational identity, when would/ should this information be revealed? What would be the reaction when this information is revealed to those who didn’t know?

In very simplistic observations, it seems that those “denominations” that don’t advertise their denomination when doing a church plant have had good “success,” and perhaps recognize that people just don’t care so much. But this “success” doesn’t just come from them not advertising their denomination. So the question, I suppose is, can we be Presbyterian without having it written on our advertising? (Ironically, the PCA seems to have accomplished this.)

Oh, by the way, in case you are wondering who I am, I’m a recently ordained Presbyterian MWS, serving a small church in Santa Fe. This is my first post to this blog. We’ll see how it goes.