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		<title>By: events where you can find presbymergents during the first half of 2008 : presbymergent</title>
		<link>http://presbymergent.org/2007/12/13/everything-must-change-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1266</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] learn more about how the First Presbyterian Church in Bend, OR, is getting ready for the tour, see this post, and email Nate Bettger for connecting with them in Boise. Brian Wallace is planning a gathering in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ryan pappan</title>
		<link>http://presbymergent.org/2007/12/13/everything-must-change-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan pappan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, are you [or any of us] willing to give the internet?  The techno goodies we hold dear?  What about your standard of living?  I agree that we are called to change.  We cannot keep hording all the pie and leaving little to none for others.

We can toss around ideas and chatter on this site all we want but it will not do anything.  It would far more beneficial to those desperately poor folks in under developed areas to receive yours and my attention and resources.  Rather than us to chatter here for our sake.  I am not sure when I heard a developing voice on this site.  

We are called to act radically.  There is no room for a lukewarm response.  Perhaps a total deconstruction of the national structure is due.  Perhaps it is a more effective means of transfer of resources.  We may not know unless we stop the bickering on denominational polity and move towards a real commitment to the poor, the sick, and the naked.

If I am hungry, cold, naked, or in need I could care less what theology, persuasion, or race that help arrives in.  

What does this &quot;new framing story based on love and equality and the life and teachings of Jesus&quot; look like?  I will bet there is a power structure involved, because it involves humanity.  This is our depraved curse and a real presence of our finitude.

Consumption is the root of our problems and the poison to the global ills.  We consume far too much.  Who is willing to cease consumption?  I pray we act rather than talk about it.  Actions for me have always spoken better than words.

The systemic injustice that exists cannot be stopped with words.  We have to act.  We have to act in sacrifice, courage, commitment, and faith.  It begins in the hearts of everyone of us.  Ever decision we make binds someone to something.  To whom shall you serve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, are you [or any of us] willing to give the internet?  The techno goodies we hold dear?  What about your standard of living?  I agree that we are called to change.  We cannot keep hording all the pie and leaving little to none for others.</p>
<p>We can toss around ideas and chatter on this site all we want but it will not do anything.  It would far more beneficial to those desperately poor folks in under developed areas to receive yours and my attention and resources.  Rather than us to chatter here for our sake.  I am not sure when I heard a developing voice on this site.  </p>
<p>We are called to act radically.  There is no room for a lukewarm response.  Perhaps a total deconstruction of the national structure is due.  Perhaps it is a more effective means of transfer of resources.  We may not know unless we stop the bickering on denominational polity and move towards a real commitment to the poor, the sick, and the naked.</p>
<p>If I am hungry, cold, naked, or in need I could care less what theology, persuasion, or race that help arrives in.  </p>
<p>What does this &#8220;new framing story based on love and equality and the life and teachings of Jesus&#8221; look like?  I will bet there is a power structure involved, because it involves humanity.  This is our depraved curse and a real presence of our finitude.</p>
<p>Consumption is the root of our problems and the poison to the global ills.  We consume far too much.  Who is willing to cease consumption?  I pray we act rather than talk about it.  Actions for me have always spoken better than words.</p>
<p>The systemic injustice that exists cannot be stopped with words.  We have to act.  We have to act in sacrifice, courage, commitment, and faith.  It begins in the hearts of everyone of us.  Ever decision we make binds someone to something.  To whom shall you serve?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Pearson</title>
		<link>http://presbymergent.org/2007/12/13/everything-must-change-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1144</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 05:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or is it time to start making wholesale changes, instead of tweeking or making incremental changes to a structural system that benefits less than 10% of the people on the planet at the expense of the other 90+%?

It is time to have a new framing story based on love and equality and the life and teaching of Jesus, rather than having a framing story that lets thousands of children die every day, people with wealth define the policies of major country governments, military/security concerns setting national and international budget and policy decisions, businesses impacting the planet&#039;s ability to support life only to make a profit for a few, and cultural isolation being the right way to look at the world&#039;s diversity.

So we can think small or set grand God level goals for the church and for Christians.  This is a call to the church to be both more local in its efforts to help those who need hope and support and also more global to solve structural problems in our world.  What is the role of the followers of Jesus if not this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or is it time to start making wholesale changes, instead of tweeking or making incremental changes to a structural system that benefits less than 10% of the people on the planet at the expense of the other 90+%?</p>
<p>It is time to have a new framing story based on love and equality and the life and teaching of Jesus, rather than having a framing story that lets thousands of children die every day, people with wealth define the policies of major country governments, military/security concerns setting national and international budget and policy decisions, businesses impacting the planet&#8217;s ability to support life only to make a profit for a few, and cultural isolation being the right way to look at the world&#8217;s diversity.</p>
<p>So we can think small or set grand God level goals for the church and for Christians.  This is a call to the church to be both more local in its efforts to help those who need hope and support and also more global to solve structural problems in our world.  What is the role of the followers of Jesus if not this?</p>
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		<title>By: ryan pappan</title>
		<link>http://presbymergent.org/2007/12/13/everything-must-change-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1143</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan pappan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because it sells more books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because it sells more books.</p>
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		<title>By: Topple</title>
		<link>http://presbymergent.org/2007/12/13/everything-must-change-events/comment-page-1/#comment-1142</link>
		<dc:creator>Topple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why must &quot;Everything&quot; Change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why must &#8220;Everything&#8221; Change?</p>
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